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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Oct 20, 2009 7:29 PM
in response to: hoapres
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> Maybe your niche market is still picking up. The
> general Silicon Valley job market appears to be going
> back to almost ABSOLUTE ZERO with regards to NEW
> jobs. My "gut feeling" is that the companies are
> taking the attitude "2009 is over and let us wait
> until 2010"
I'm also hearing the "wait until 2010" meme from a lot of people I know.
On a related note, a friend I've known for 40 years who is a long haul trucker is telling me that his milage is continuing to get worse, and every truck stop he stops in, plus company yards, are filed with trucks going nowhere.
Recession over? Not likely...
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Oct 20, 2009 9:57 PM
in response to: JeremyM
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To 11iAPPS DBA,
I did not write that I am 24 years old making 200K a year, I was replying to what the 24 year old kid wrote himself, his text is in my reply ( I chose the option to quote the original text). If you read upwards of my post you will see Hoarpes wrote that, not me.
If you read MY posts I am the 40 year old struggling.
Please check the facts.
Thanks.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Oct 20, 2009 9:58 PM
in response to: 11iAppsDBA
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To 11iAPPS DBA,
I did not write that I am 24 years old making 200K a year, I was replying to what the 24 year old kid wrote himself, his text is in my reply ( I chose the option to quote the original text). If you read upwards of my post you will see Hoarpes wrote that, not me.
If you read MY posts I am the 40 year old struggling.
Please check the facts.
Thanks.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Oct 21, 2009 11:51 PM
in response to: 11iAppsDBA
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I took my resume off the net and still get plenty of calls from recruiters who contact me from linkedin.com. So there is work out there for the right skill and niche as long as you have major connections like 11iAppsDBA!
Me- I am ok- doing long term implementation for R12 E-Business. Keeping me busy and good fun and decent pay. Plus I am learning new tax software for R12 and only a few know it so good for my future work.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Oct 21, 2009 11:54 PM
in response to: 11iAppsDBA
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>>Times are getting "good" again
Thats music to my ears! I just finished my short gig at $150/hr and now working on a long term R12 implementation. Would be fantastic to do a $250/hr gig for 2 years to revamp a major client's EBS architecture. I predict sooner than later as legacy EBS environments will require consulting services.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Nov 2, 2009 3:06 PM
in response to: JeremyM
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20 years old and no degree and little to no experience (1-2 exp. is nothing now). You should be thankful. I've been about 15 years in IT ( 2 degrees) and they ask me to work for $20/hr.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Nov 4, 2009 1:37 PM
in response to: JeremyM
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Jeremy,
take a step back for a second. you said you're making 29k now, right? let's do some math:
29k/52 weeks = 557.63/week = 13.94/hour
so while i understand your happiness in finding a "real" job, realize that you've only received a 94 cent raise. essentially you're in the same boat, financially speaking.
to your original question, yes $13/hour is low, but you can live off of it. what's more important that you get from your current position is experience working in a real company, and maintaining a healthy work/life balance - which it seems you didn't have while working for your grandfather.
as far as education, you seem as if you have an aversion to going to school. the reality is that in the real world, you need an education. not so you can have a better job, but so you'll be more intelligent. a better job is just a byproduct. like someone else mentioned, you can be successful without a college degree, but the odds aren't in your favor - especially if you're looking for a career, not just a job.
i don't buy the, "i can't afford school" excuse from anyone. grants, scholarships, loans, and tuition reimbursement are out there. it's just up to you to find them. and no, if you choose wisely, you won't end up with 50k worth of debt. for example, in florida, an in-state student only pays about $120/credit hour in tuition at a 4 year public university. works out to <20k for all four years.
you also said that you don't see a need to go to a brick and mortar school. while true, you get more from being in a classroom setting than just listening to others' questions. discipline from having to be there on the school's time, not your time. interaction with professors and other students - more people brainstorming opens you up to new ideas. better understanding of different cultural differences amongst others. the list goes on.
lastly, i don't think arsynic's comments were being thrown at you in a negative manner. he wasn't calling you a jiffy-lube guy at all. he was simply stating that there are a lot of people out there who say the same things you're saying. what makes you different? pat of that could be a college degree. and whether anyone likes it or not, having that piece of paper will make the difference when comparing two equally qualified candidates.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Nov 8, 2009 10:20 PM
in response to: JeremyM
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You need to decide what your goals are and go to college. The problem is not the rate for the type of work. The problem is whether you have goals and are taking initiative and carrying out a plan to achieve them rather than just drifting. If you live near a large university, you may find a half time position listed for a system administrator, in which case you would get paid about $20 per hour plus benefits and that would include taking coursses for free. You could work at one college and be enrolled at another. There are also colleges that have co-op education. You have to work harder at life planning and getting a combination of work and study to work out.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Nov 9, 2009 11:07 AM
in response to: JeremyM
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You are being too defeatest about the opportunity to go to college. The first question to ask is what your values are, and from that the next question is what is your career goal to fulfill these values and to fulfill your talents. Notice that money has not yet factored into this. Then you can look at the career prospects for the occupations you are interested in. Also, you might want to think about the steps involved in each one. Your IT background would be valuable in genome research, for example, and also in data mining. You have to major in something you *like*, with a practical approach. That will differentiate you from others. Then you have to have a plan. This means studying about various colleges, finding out where you can financial aid, etc. You have to study hard for the S.A.T.s because getting in the 700s, particularly in math, will help guarantee your admission. If you study at a large research university, there will be many science professors who will be glad to employ your IT skills.Some of those professors start up new companies and there you have a new opportunity. Perhaps a person's dreams may become thwarted when one gets older, but as a younger person you should get motivated by something you are interested in and try to defeat one obstacle at a time. While you are young you can share housing with others. Many of those large mansions in California are inhabited by groups of young students or young workers. Putting the money before the goals is putting the cart before the horse.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Nov 13, 2009 8:22 PM
in response to: acp19809
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If you are an american citizen with no criminal record and have good credit, go get your security clearance to TS/SCI with fullscope. You will earn a minimum of 50k to 85k a year w/ no college education.
Edit: forgot to add and that's only your 1st year, you can see 10-20k increases per year as a contractor.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Dec 11, 2009 12:57 AM
in response to: E.Dubu
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I didn't really read through this thread but I agree with the poster above me. You can get significant salary increases by becoming a cleared contractor which means a company would have to hire you and initiate your clearance investigation. I have seen professionals without degrees at the 100K mark and above (obviously not many) so it's definitely possible but I always recommend looking into continued education at some point as it's extremely beneficial. Having strong leadership qualities, technical skills, aspirations, and persistence goes a long way.
BTW: Most of your technical skills appear to be self-taught so you could make a 'Skills' section on your resume and list your skill sets. That could easily stretch your resume to another page depending on how extensive your skill sets are. The employer just has to see promise and identify you as a valuable asset; I believe you said you became a Sharepoint administrator which definitely shows that your potential was recognized.
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Re: Is my hourly rate too low for what I do?
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Dec 11, 2009 2:59 PM
in response to: zero
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>> The employer just has to see promise ...
If you don't have experience on the "latest and greatest" then you won't get the job.
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